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naam:	Ponica
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Try this

Ponica, 06 Nov 2008 05:57

Go to this site and type in Obama, then click change, election, and hope. There are so many truly great pictures to look at right now.

taggalaxy.de/

ik zou m liever

Liesbo, 06 Nov 2008 16:07

gewoon eens op de koffie hebben -en dat int engels. ''i'd rather have him just like that come over for a cup of coffee at my place'' -dekt dat de inhoud?

Ik weet wat niet u zei

Ponica, 06 Nov 2008 20:44

Omdat ik het geen Nederlands heb geleerd. Maar, ik denk u wilt zeggen ''I would rather have him over just once for a cup of coffee'' Hij moet spoedig gaan, omdat hij zal in januari zeer bezig zijn.

sorry

Liesbo, 06 Nov 2008 21:19

not just once, like that = like spontaneously, just like normal people do, unpaid for; it's of more use than working for group-forming community-thinking sheep. i don't believe in the authority of presidents and kings, and more than hate people hiding behind countryborders, flags, hymnes, armies, we, us and the others. at the same time i know i can think and live like i do thanks to the dutch social minded society, a word sounding like socialist, something americans seem to be so afraid of. my function in life is a riddle, and riddles make life interesting. freedom is nonexistant. everybody depends on others. and i'd rather speak dutch. apparantly you do speak dutch a bit, i suppose you have some connection here? try to do better, it's a very useful secret language (in large parts of planet earth!)

sure, he'll try to do better.

u're no riddle, but a contradictio in T, 06 Nov 2008 22:32

will you try to do better with your english? social minded if I ever saw it. and there's definitely no 'us' and 'them', 'we dutch' versus 'americans' flavoured themes in your thoughts!

there are differencies.

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 00:24

presidents and kings. i don't hide behind them. it's purely coincidental that i'm born dutch. i like the colours of cultural differencies, i hate the trouble made about/by them. strickt borderlines. and in america i would be long dead. and tonight i erase this incompetent -whatever- geblala in a zowiezo untoereikend something as words. for i'm in a bad mood.

culture

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 00:31

is formed by grouping individuals.

ah you edited your first post

good for you for not hiding, 07 Nov 2008 00:51

to incorporate MOST. Many people go through life editing what they primarily think and feel, it's very civilised but it doesn't take away that is how they think and feel first off, and it does not take away that you clearly think in Dutch versus Americans, which is fine by me but not when you say ''and more than hate people (...) hiding behind (...) we, us and the others.'' Making pseudo-profound statements like 'culture is formed by grouping individuals' does not make you any less of a narrow minded twat ready to blow you own culture's trumpet while generalisingly pointing the finger at someone else's. If you stand for something, then carry it out. Otherwise your words are just words.

en nu nog een keer in neerlandski?

Emmepem, 07 Nov 2008 01:43

Tjonge jonge, wordt er hier eens (denk ik) wat zinnigs gezegd kan ik het weer niet volgen...

www.liesbethdijkman.nl/doolhofHTMs/t02a.htm

i answered to all your sayings

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 01:44

but the blog found the words too many and erased them all. YOUR words: ''versus'', ''trumpet'', ''pseudo'', ''just words''. YOU are the PSEUDONYM.

stomme woorden

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 02:13

stomme taal stomme typmachien stomme huid stomme pogingen stomme hokjes ze bestaan, verschillen, maar blijven binnen verkeerde, door zogenaamd machtigen, verzonnen grenzen gestauwd, gepropt, gedwongen, geforceerd, in plaats van gezien en gewaardeerd in hun ware bron, het individu. ik leef godverdomme naar wat ik zeg, anders was ik nu ook niet zo'n armzalige uitkeringsrukker, al sinds 2003 in bezwaar tegen bepaalde voorwaarden waaraan men zegt dat ik daarvoor moet voldoen. rechters geven mij gelijk, maar ik heb nog steeds geen antwoord op mn oorspronkelijke, zeer persoonlijke en lange brief, waarin ik mijn visie uit de doeken doe. ik niet leven naar wat ik zeg. ts. kon ik maar anders. al kost t me de kop, blijkbaar! (in amerika was ik allang dood geweest)

eigenlijk

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 03:41

ondertussen niet voldoend aan die voorwaarden, zou ik ook hier geen recht hebben op een uitkering. hoewel de voorwaarden inmiddels wel weer aanzienlijk zachter zijn geworden. ik ben al sinds 2003 angstvallig niet meer gecontroleerd, want moest daarbij liever geen inkomsten noch schenkingen opgeven, wat ik juist wel altijd doe. wat dat betreft is de lijdensweg van een zogenaamde sukkel in dat machtigste (lees: afhankelijkste, rijkste) creditcardland op aarde waarschijnlijk wel wat helderder en kortstondiger. misschien moet ik toch maar emigreren, als ik er al in kom. ik heb namelijk niet eens een paspoort en ook al nooit een id (mn ongebruikte rijbewijs) op zak en wil binnenkort voor de lol de cursus arabisch voor beginners volgen, in het buurthuis. hun letters zijn zo mooi. kan ik ook nog eens ''hallo'' terugzeggen.

I thought you meant that.

Ponica, 07 Nov 2008 04:00

But that's kind of a clumsy way to say that, much like my dutch. And when I plugged the dutch into the babelfish translator, it gave me ''I would rather on coffee have simply once'', so I was confused. I can only do better if I take a class or speak every day with Nederlanders. I think if McCain had won, I would have learned it very fast, and tried to move to the Netherlands and got a job. I'm more afraid of fascism than socialism. And as for Obama, maybe if you had a magick wand, he would come over, just like that. We all know he has no magick wand, but the very least he brings is hope, something we haven't had for some time. Some people never had any. Now they do. Just like that.

sure Liesbo,

my words again, 07 Nov 2008 05:10

hide behind saying that they're MY words. Ofcourse they are my words, if I just repeated your words I wouldn't be saying anything new, now would I? Fact remains that MY words come out of interpretation of YOUR words and I think that if you're all about ''hating to hide behind we, us and the others'', then you should not write in language that says We (the Dutch) and the Others (Americans). Words are easy. Backing them up with actions is harder.

your interpretation, dear anonymus,

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 05:45

is wrong. i mean it in common. by ''hiding'' i mean: use as an excuse. and believe me, i live after my words, couldn't live otherwise and really think i would already be dead if i lived in america. for i'm a complete so-called loser, living on social security money. you're right about one thing: i shouldn't have edited my first post and undid it again. ''seem to'' should have been clear enough.

and ponica

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 05:53

languages: i unwillingly insulted somebody in dublin once, by saying ''i don't care'' in stead of ''i don't mind''. and my father, trying to get some milk in romania in the 70s, made a drawing of an black-and-white cow and it took three quarters of an hour for the people to understand it was a cow, not a goat, since cow in romania are (were?) completely brown. anyway, i stayed up all night to see the elections and i'm very glad obama won; not only because he seems to be sincere, but also because he's multi-culti as they call it here. and besides that: he's called ''young'' and that's about my age haha!

i could have been

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 05:57

a president

but now

Liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 06:00

my sweet americans -it's 6 o'clock in the morning here, suppose i should go to bed. any idea, by the way, why ''i'' in english is written in capital I ?

hope you don't mean me

the anonymous one, 07 Nov 2008 10:08

by sweet Americans, 'cause I ain't one. Good luck hiding, one day you might find yourself.

arrogant

unlogged liesbo, 07 Nov 2008 14:59

bastard